+0.42 Don't Cite Unsold eBay Listing Prices

Name: HRCB Evaluation: Don't Cite Unsold eBay Listing Prices
Item: Don't Cite Unsold eBay Listing Prices
Rating: 0.481
Author: HN HRCB

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+0.42	Don't Cite Unsold eBay Listing Prices (blog.danlew.net S:+0.33 )
	48 points by speckx 2 days ago \| 9 comments on HN \| Moderate positive Contested Editorial · v3.7 · 2026-02-28 09:58:45 0

Summary Free Expression & Accuracy Advocates

This personal blog post by Dan Lew advocates for journalistic accuracy, directly criticizing mainstream outlets (Patch, Wall Street Journal) for citing unsold eBay listings as actual sales prices. Through comparative data analysis, the author distinguishes between listing prices and verified sales, advocates for evidence-based reporting, and provides specific actionable guidance (using eBay's product research tool). The content exemplifies Article 19 freedom of expression while promoting truthfulness principles aligned with the UDHR Preamble's emphasis on dignity and justice.

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Editorial Mean	+0.42	Structural Mean	+0.33
Weighted Mean	+0.48	Unweighted Mean	+0.39
Max	+0.80 Article 19	Min	+0.16 Article 1
Signal	4	No Data	27
Volatility	0.26 (High)
Negative	0	Channels	E: 0.6 S: 0.4
SETL ℹ	+0.15	Editorial-dominant
FW Ratio ℹ	50%	9 facts · 9 inferences

Evidence 8% coverage ℹ

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HN Discussion 5 top-level · 1 replies

bdcravens 2026-02-27 19:21 UTC link

It doesn't make for as good of a headline, but learning to look at solds (and even more importantly, sell through rate) is the first thing you learn (or should learn) if you do any reselling.

Additionally, you have to factor in free shipping. A rough way to do it is to multiply the % times the average shipping price and deduct that from the average sales price (so the "real" average sales price for the totes is closer to $14 or so)

dangus 2026-02-27 20:55 UTC link

Could have been helpful for the article to include a tutorial:

In the filters, there’s one for “completed” and “sold,” you want both checked.

nothercastle 2026-02-28 01:35 UTC link

Ha this summarizes marketplace problems in one sentence. All items that are still available for sale are typically priced too high. The slices of market that actually moves a minuscule 1-5% of items and they don’t hang out for long

arjie 2026-02-28 06:05 UTC link

This is a classic problem when people try to find "the current price" of something. A typical error is to take an average of the current rentals currently on the market and describe that as the average rental cost somewhere. Usually the book is so thin that a few places being taken off the market will shift the price a lot while most people can be paying something like half of that and every rental that lists for less than the clearing price is acquired so rapidly that any sampling method will reliably miss it.

atoav 2026-02-28 14:05 UTC link

Even better are people who sell a used piece of equipment for a higher price than a new one.

usui 2026-02-27 23:15 UTC link

Why would you want "Completed" if you want to know how much an item sells for? This would be telling you how much it didn't sell for.

Editorial Channel

What the content says

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Article 19 Freedom of Expression

High Advocacy Framing

Editorial

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SETL

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Core article topic: Author freely exercises freedom of opinion and expression by publicly criticizing mainstream news outlets (Patch, Wall Street Journal) for journalistic malpractice and advocates evidence-based reporting standards.

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Preamble Preamble

High Advocacy

Editorial

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SETL

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Content advocates for truthfulness and accuracy in reporting, aligned with dignity and justice principles underlying the Preamble's call for freedom and human worth.

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Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood

Low Advocacy

Editorial

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SETL

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Article indirectly supports equality by advocating that all people deserve truthful information rather than misleading price claims that exploit or deceive.

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Article 17 Property

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Article advocates for accurate representation of property values and transparent pricing practices, supporting informed property-related decision-making.

Article 2 Non-Discrimination

No observable reference to discrimination or differential treatment based on protected characteristics.

Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

No reference to right to life, liberty, or personal security.

Article 4 No Slavery

No reference to slavery or servitude.

Article 5 No Torture

No reference to torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment.

Article 6 Legal Personhood

No reference to recognition as a person before law.

Article 7 Equality Before Law

No reference to equal protection or equality before law.

Article 8 Right to Remedy

No reference to effective remedies for rights violations.

Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

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Article 10 Fair Hearing

No reference to fair trial or legal proceedings.

Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

No reference to criminal liability or presumption of innocence.

Article 12 Privacy

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Article 13 Freedom of Movement

No reference to freedom of movement or residence.

Article 14 Asylum

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Article 15 Nationality

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Article 16 Marriage & Family

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Article 18 Freedom of Thought

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Article 20 Assembly & Association

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Article 21 Political Participation

No reference to participation in government, democratic processes, or public administration.

Article 22 Social Security

No reference to social security or economic welfare entitlements.

Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

No reference to work, fair wages, or labor rights.

Article 24 Rest & Leisure

No reference to rest, leisure, or limitations on working hours.

Article 25 Standard of Living

No reference to health, food, clothing, housing, or medical care.

Article 26 Education

While content employs educational framing and provides instruction, it does not directly reference education as a right or access to schooling.

Article 27 Cultural Participation

No reference to cultural participation, scientific advancement, or intellectual property.

Article 28 Social & International Order

No reference to social and international order or institutional frameworks.

Article 29 Duties to Community

No reference to community duties or reasonable limitations on rights.

Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

No reference to prevention of rights destruction or misuse of freedoms.

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Ownership	—	Personal blog by Dan Lew; no corporate or institutional ownership details directly observable from the provided page content.
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Article 19 Freedom of Expression

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Site structure (personal blog with comment and subscription functionality) directly enables and structurally supports freedom of expression without apparent editorial gatekeeping or censorship.

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Site structure supports open discourse without apparent barriers to free expression or publishing.

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Site provides freely accessible information without discrimination or access barriers.

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No structural barriers to discussion or advocacy regarding property valuation.

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Article 28 Social & International Order

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Article 29 Duties to Community

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Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

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How well-sourced and evidence-based is this content?

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Propaganda Flags ℹ

2 manipulative rhetoric techniques found

2 techniques detected

loaded language

I beg of you

appeal to emotion

I'm ticked off after seeing this Patch post and this WSJ article

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Does this content offer solutions or only describe problems?

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Speaks: individuals

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present immediate

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accessible low jargon general

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