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Model Editorial Structural Class Conf SETL Theme
@cf/meta/llama-3.3-70b-instruct-fp8-fast lite 0.00 ND Neutral 0.80 0.00 AI ethics
@cf/meta/llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct lite 0.00 ND Neutral 0.50 0.00 Artificial Intelligence
deepseek/deepseek-v3.2-20251201 +0.02 ND Neutral 0.23 Technology & Knowledge
claude-haiku-4-5-20251001 +0.27 +0.33 Moderate positive 0.19 -0.13 Information Access & Free Expression
meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct:free ND ND
Section @cf/meta/llama-3.3-70b-instruct-fp8-fast lite @cf/meta/llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct lite deepseek/deepseek-v3.2-20251201 claude-haiku-4-5-20251001 meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct:free
Preamble ND ND 0.10 0.29 ND
Article 1 ND ND 0.00 0.24 ND
Article 2 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 3 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 4 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 5 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 6 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 7 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 8 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 9 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 10 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 11 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 12 ND ND -0.13 -0.26 ND
Article 13 ND ND 0.00 0.29 ND
Article 14 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 15 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 16 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 17 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 18 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 19 ND ND 0.50 0.80 ND
Article 20 ND ND 0.08 0.40 ND
Article 21 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 22 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 23 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 24 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 25 ND ND 0.22 0.59 ND
Article 26 ND ND 0.20 0.52 ND
Article 27 ND ND 0.35 0.52 ND
Article 28 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 29 ND ND 0.00 ND ND
Article 30 ND ND -0.10 ND ND
+0.27 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you (theconversation.com S:+0.33 )
12 points by colinprince 4 days ago | 7 comments on HN | Moderate positive Contested Editorial · v3.7 · 2026-02-26 04:41:10 0
Summary Information Access & Free Expression Advocates
This article exemplifies The Conversation's mission to democratize expert knowledge by publishing free, accessible research analysis about AI language understanding—a topic increasingly central to social, educational, and technical infrastructure. The content directly advances freedom of expression (Article 19) and universal access to education and information (Articles 25, 26, 27) through its open-access model and transparent editorial infrastructure. However, structural privacy signals (GTM analytics, behavioral tracking) create a tension between the article's subject—precision in human-machine communication—and the platform's user data collection practices.
Article Heatmap
Preamble: +0.29 — Preamble P Article 1: +0.24 — Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood 1 Article 2: ND — Non-Discrimination Article 2: No Data — Non-Discrimination 2 Article 3: ND — Life, Liberty, Security Article 3: No Data — Life, Liberty, Security 3 Article 4: ND — No Slavery Article 4: No Data — No Slavery 4 Article 5: ND — No Torture Article 5: No Data — No Torture 5 Article 6: ND — Legal Personhood Article 6: No Data — Legal Personhood 6 Article 7: ND — Equality Before Law Article 7: No Data — Equality Before Law 7 Article 8: ND — Right to Remedy Article 8: No Data — Right to Remedy 8 Article 9: ND — No Arbitrary Detention Article 9: No Data — No Arbitrary Detention 9 Article 10: ND — Fair Hearing Article 10: No Data — Fair Hearing 10 Article 11: ND — Presumption of Innocence Article 11: No Data — Presumption of Innocence 11 Article 12: -0.26 — Privacy 12 Article 13: +0.29 — Freedom of Movement 13 Article 14: ND — Asylum Article 14: No Data — Asylum 14 Article 15: ND — Nationality Article 15: No Data — Nationality 15 Article 16: ND — Marriage & Family Article 16: No Data — Marriage & Family 16 Article 17: ND — Property Article 17: No Data — Property 17 Article 18: ND — Freedom of Thought Article 18: No Data — Freedom of Thought 18 Article 19: +0.80 — Freedom of Expression 19 Article 20: +0.40 — Assembly & Association 20 Article 21: ND — Political Participation Article 21: No Data — Political Participation 21 Article 22: ND — Social Security Article 22: No Data — Social Security 22 Article 23: ND — Work & Equal Pay Article 23: No Data — Work & Equal Pay 23 Article 24: ND — Rest & Leisure Article 24: No Data — Rest & Leisure 24 Article 25: +0.59 — Standard of Living 25 Article 26: +0.52 — Education 26 Article 27: +0.52 — Cultural Participation 27 Article 28: ND — Social & International Order Article 28: No Data — Social & International Order 28 Article 29: ND — Duties to Community Article 29: No Data — Duties to Community 29 Article 30: ND — No Destruction of Rights Article 30: No Data — No Destruction of Rights 30
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Editorial Mean +0.27 Structural Mean +0.33
Weighted Mean +0.41 Unweighted Mean +0.38
Max +0.80 Article 19 Min -0.26 Article 12
Signal 9 No Data 22
Volatility 0.28 (High)
Negative 1 Channels E: 0.6 S: 0.4
SETL -0.13 Structural-dominant
FW Ratio 56% 29 facts · 23 inferences
Evidence 19% coverage
2H 6M 1L 22 ND
Theme Radar
Foundation Security Legal Privacy & Movement Personal Expression Economic & Social Cultural Order & Duties Foundation: 0.27 (2 articles) Security: 0.00 (0 articles) Legal: 0.00 (0 articles) Privacy & Movement: 0.01 (2 articles) Personal: 0.00 (0 articles) Expression: 0.60 (2 articles) Economic & Social: 0.59 (1 articles) Cultural: 0.52 (2 articles) Order & Duties: 0.00 (0 articles)
HN Discussion 6 top-level · 0 replies
OkayPhysicist 2026-02-25 22:24 UTC link
I wonder if the 70% vs 80% "Probably" problem comes from cultural differences between anglophone countries. The human datasets that were available were mostly American, with some Western Europe/NATO. Notably missing would be India, which simply by population I'd expect to represent a significant chunk of English-language writing available on the open internet ( and thus fed into LLM training sets).

The other phenomena I would love to test is if the act of surveying people effected their declared odds. Not sure how to get good numbers out of that, but I could see the LLM vs surveyed human discrepancy arising from people using "probably" differently in their everyday writing, as opposed to when asked point-blank what "probably" means.

5o1ecist 2026-02-25 22:40 UTC link
> The research focused on words of estimative probability, which include terms like “maybe,” “probably” and “almost certain.”

Interesting. Perplexity did that as well, but I've made sure it stops doing that.

Might be relevant for others: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/hey-hey-do-you-remember-whe...

selridge 2026-02-25 22:44 UTC link
Alignment is impossible here. “Nearly certain” odds for success for a sports team might be 20:1, but that’s a little worse (not much!) than for a launch vehicle and not at all good for a web server. No one would say “it is nearly certain that I’ll serve a web request” based on two 9’s, but they would say “it is nearly certain the team will win today” given the same odds. That’s just between humans.
rcarr 2026-02-25 22:47 UTC link
Something I noticed recently is that Claude Code interprets "or" as inclusive or (or at least it does when writing function names). I suspect that this must be due to it's code specific nature considering I would expect the majority of or use in written language to be exclusive or.
jadenPete 2026-02-25 23:25 UTC link
It seems like this problem (differences in how humans and LLMs use probabilistic language) and hallucination are one in the same. LLMs don’t have access to information about how confident they are, so they always choose the most likely response, even if the most likely response isn’t actually that likely. Whereas if a human is unconfident, they’ll express that instead of choosing the most likely response.

Of course, LLMs can still speak about probabilities and mimic uncertainty, but that’s likely (heh) coming from their training data on the subject matter, not their actual confidence.

Humans are interesting because they employ a two-phased approach: when we’re learning, we fake confidence (you’d never write “I don’t know” on a test unless you truly had nothing of value to say), but during inference, we communicate our confidence. Some humans suffer from underconfidence or overconfidence, but most just seem to know innately how to do this.

Can anyone who works on LLMs clarify whether my understanding is correct?

Noumenon72 2026-02-26 02:12 UTC link
What I wanted to see: a few examples, and a table

   Term     Human interpretation   AI talking to woman   AI prompted in Chinese 
  maybe        50%                       30%                     50%
  probably     80%                       55%                     50%
They produced one graphic that kind of looks like this but seems to say that LLMs interpret "maybe" as 90%, which I don't believe. Then they produced another saying "likely != possible" which doesn't really say anything, and everything else about the article just refuses to give any examples where the LLM meant something different and how.
Editorial Channel
What the content says
+0.50
Article 19 Freedom of Expression
High Advocacy Framing
Editorial
+0.50
SETL
0.00

Article directly exercises freedom of expression by analyzing and publicly discussing AI language understanding—a topic central to emerging human-machine communication. The piece freely examines semantic precision in probabilistic language without apparent editorial constraint. Author is identified (Mayank Kejriwal, author_id 1213029), and content is tagged as 'analysis,' indicating transparent intellectual exercise.

+0.40
Article 26 Education
High Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
-0.15

Article directly supports Article 26 by providing free access to research-grade knowledge about AI—a domain increasingly central to education and full human development. The piece exemplifies how expert knowledge can be made accessible to general audiences, supporting education's role in developing human potential. Author is an expert (inferred from byline and content analysis), making this knowledge transfer material.

+0.35
Article 25 Standard of Living
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.35
SETL
-0.14

Article indirectly supports Article 25 by democratizing knowledge about AI—an increasingly central component of health, adequate standard of living, and social welfare systems. Understanding how AI interprets language has direct relevance to AI's role in medical diagnosis, resource allocation, and social services. Free access to research-grade analysis supports informed participation in AI governance affecting welfare.

+0.35
Article 27 Cultural Participation
Medium Framing
Editorial
+0.35
SETL
-0.14

Article participates in cultural life by analyzing language and semantics—domains central to human culture and intellectual exchange. The piece contributes to shared cultural understanding about emerging technology. Free publication supports participation in cultural life without economic restriction.

+0.30
Article 20 Assembly & Association
Medium Framing
Editorial
+0.30
SETL
-0.13

Article does not explicitly address peaceful assembly or association. However, the content supports the intellectual preconditions for such rights by democratizing knowledge about emerging technology. No observable content restricts or suppresses assembly or association.

+0.25
Preamble Preamble
Medium Framing
Editorial
+0.25
SETL
-0.19

Article frames AI language understanding as a scientific research topic, positioning itself within the Preamble's emphasis on human dignity and shared understanding. The piece explores how words carry different meanings between humans and machines, implicitly affirming the value of clear, dignified human communication.

+0.25
Article 13 Freedom of Movement
Medium Framing
Editorial
+0.25
SETL
-0.19

Article is published without paywall or geographic restriction, supporting freedom of movement to information. The free-access model enables readers globally to engage with AI research commentary.

+0.20
Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
Low Framing
Editorial
+0.20
SETL
-0.17

Article treats AI language understanding as a distinct phenomenon from human understanding, implicitly affirming human cognitive uniqueness and equal dignity in a world where machines exist. No direct content addressing equality before law is visible in page config.

-0.15
Article 12 Privacy
Medium Practice
Editorial
-0.15
SETL
-0.09

Article does not address privacy explicitly. The content itself contains no statements about privacy rights. However, page config reveals GTM analytics tracking and article engagement metadata collection, creating an implicit tension between the article's subject (precise meaning) and the platform's behavioral tracking.

ND
Article 2 Non-Discrimination

No observable content addressing freedom from slavery or servitude.

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

No observable content addressing right to life, liberty, or personal security.

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

No observable content addressing arbitrary arrest or detention.

ND
Article 5 No Torture

No observable content addressing torture or cruel treatment.

ND
Article 6 Legal Personhood

No observable content addressing legal personhood or recognition before law.

ND
Article 7 Equality Before Law

No observable content addressing equal protection or non-discrimination.

ND
Article 8 Right to Remedy

No observable content addressing legal remedy or access to justice.

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

No observable content addressing arbitrary arrest or detention.

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

No observable content addressing right to fair and public hearing.

ND
Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

No observable content addressing criminal responsibility or retroactive criminal law.

ND
Article 14 Asylum

No observable content addressing asylum or refugee status.

ND
Article 15 Nationality

No observable content addressing nationality or change of nationality.

ND
Article 16 Marriage & Family

No observable content addressing marriage, family, or consent.

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Article 17 Property

No observable content addressing property rights.

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Article 18 Freedom of Thought

No observable content addressing freedom of thought, conscience, or religion.

ND
Article 21 Political Participation

No observable content addressing political participation, voting, or democratic governance.

ND
Article 22 Social Security

No observable content addressing social security, employment, or welfare entitlements.

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Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

No observable content addressing labor rights, employment, or fair wages.

ND
Article 24 Rest & Leisure

No observable content addressing rest, leisure, or reasonable working hours.

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

No observable content addressing social and international order supporting UDHR rights.

ND
Article 29 Duties to Community

No observable content addressing duties or limitations on rights exercise.

ND
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

No observable content addressing interpretation or limitations of UDHR.

Structural Channel
What the site does
Element Modifier Affects Note
Legal & Terms
Privacy -0.05
Article 12
The Conversation operates on a freemium model with cookie/tracking infrastructure visible in page config (GTM tracking), suggesting data collection practices that may not fully center user privacy control.
Terms of Service
No observable terms of service content on the article page itself.
Identity & Mission
Mission +0.15
Article 19 Article 27
The Conversation's core mission is to democratize expert knowledge through accessible publishing, directly supporting freedom of expression and cultural participation.
Editorial Code +0.08
Article 19 Article 20
Academic editorial review and contributor expertise signals editorial integrity supporting informed speech and reasoned public discourse.
Ownership
Ownership structure not visible on article page; operates as nonprofit academic publishing platform.
Access & Distribution
Access Model +0.12
Article 19 Article 25
Free access to all articles ('article_type: free') removes economic barriers to information and supports equitable access to knowledge.
Ad/Tracking -0.08
Article 12
GTM analytics infrastructure and ad network integration visible in page config; user behavioral tracking present.
Accessibility +0.10
Article 25 Article 26
The Conversation provides free, open-access academic commentary to general audiences, removing barriers to information and promoting universal access to education-adjacent content.
+0.50
Article 19 Freedom of Expression
High Advocacy Framing
Structural
+0.50
Context Modifier
+0.30
SETL
0.00

Platform structural support for Article 19 is substantial: free access removes economic barriers to speech dissemination, academic editorial standards (visible in content_type signals) provide credibility infrastructure, and topics are freely tagged enabling information discovery. Domain mission explicitly centers democratizing expert knowledge. Article is published with comments enabled (comments_closed_at timestamp suggests open discussion period), facilitating responsive dialogue. However, GTM tracking creates implicit asymmetry in who observes the speech act.

+0.45
Article 26 Education
High Framing Practice
Structural
+0.45
Context Modifier
+0.10
SETL
-0.15

Platform structural support for Article 26 is strong: free access removes economic barriers to education-adjacent content, academic editorial standards ensure knowledge quality, topic tagging supports discovery and curriculum building. Domain accessibility modifiers (+0.10, +0.12) and mission modifier (+0.15) directly support Article 26. No paywalls or credential gates restrict access to the analysis.

+0.40
Article 25 Standard of Living
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
+0.22
SETL
-0.14

Free access model removes economic barriers to understanding technologies increasingly embedded in health, welfare, and social support systems. Platform provides education-adjacent content supporting informed citizenship about AI's role in social welfare. Domain accessibility modifiers (+0.10 for open access, +0.12 for free access model) directly support Article 25's emphasis on universal access to adequate standards of living.

+0.40
Article 27 Cultural Participation
Medium Framing
Structural
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Context Modifier
+0.15
SETL
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Platform enables cultural participation by providing free access to intellectual discourse about technology. Topic tags and article taxonomy support discovery and engagement with cultural conversation. Domain mission (per DCP, modifier +0.15) centers democratizing knowledge, directly supporting Article 27's vision of universal cultural participation.

+0.35
Preamble Preamble
Medium Framing
Structural
+0.35
Context Modifier
0.00
SETL
-0.19

Free access model removes barriers to understanding AI research, supporting the Preamble's commitment to universal human dignity through equitable knowledge sharing.

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Article 13 Freedom of Movement
Medium Framing
Structural
+0.35
Context Modifier
0.00
SETL
-0.19

Free access (article_type: free) with no visible geofencing supports unobstructed movement through informational space. Global accessibility of expert commentary facilitates cross-border intellectual exchange.

+0.35
Article 20 Assembly & Association
Medium Framing
Structural
+0.35
Context Modifier
+0.08
SETL
-0.13

Platform architecture supports associational freedom by providing space for public intellectual discourse. Free access enables diverse participants to engage with research-grade commentary. Topic tags (including 'Technology') facilitate community formation around shared informational interests. No observable terms of service restricting association are visible on article page.

+0.30
Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
Low Framing
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
0.00
SETL
-0.17

Open access to research-grade content supports equal access to information about AI, a topic increasingly central to modern equality concerns.

-0.10
Article 12 Privacy
Medium Practice
Structural
-0.10
Context Modifier
-0.13
SETL
-0.09

GTM tracking infrastructure (window.GTM.pageType, article metadata collection, analytics firing) indicates user behavioral tracking. Combined with domain-level ad tracking and cookie infrastructure, this creates observable privacy friction for readers engaging with content about AI understanding.

ND
Article 2 Non-Discrimination

No structural signals observable regarding labor conditions or human trafficking.

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

No structural signals observable regarding safety or security.

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

No structural signals observable regarding state detention practices.

ND
Article 5 No Torture

No structural signals observable regarding abuse or degradation.

ND
Article 6 Legal Personhood

No structural signals observable regarding legal status.

ND
Article 7 Equality Before Law

No structural signals observable regarding discriminatory practices.

ND
Article 8 Right to Remedy

No structural signals observable regarding judicial processes.

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

No structural signals observable regarding state detention.

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

No structural signals observable regarding judicial fairness.

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Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

No structural signals observable regarding criminal procedure.

ND
Article 14 Asylum

No structural signals observable regarding asylum or refuge.

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Article 15 Nationality

No structural signals observable regarding nationality rights.

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Article 16 Marriage & Family

No structural signals observable regarding family rights.

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Article 17 Property

No structural signals observable regarding property or dispossession.

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Article 18 Freedom of Thought

No structural signals observable regarding conscience or belief.

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Article 21 Political Participation

No structural signals observable regarding political participation or electoral access.

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Article 22 Social Security

No structural signals observable regarding social safety nets.

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Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

No structural signals observable regarding labor conditions or worker rights.

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Article 24 Rest & Leisure

No structural signals observable regarding work-life balance.

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Article 28 Social & International Order

No structural signals observable regarding systemic order or international frameworks.

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Article 29 Duties to Community

No structural signals observable regarding duty frameworks.

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Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

No structural signals observable regarding UDHR interpretation.

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Epistemic Quality
How well-sourced and evidence-based is this content?
0.64 medium claims
Sources
0.7
Evidence
0.6
Uncertainty
0.6
Purpose
0.8
Propaganda Flags
No manipulative rhetoric detected
0 techniques detected
Emotional Tone
Emotional character: positive/negative, intensity, authority
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Valence
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Arousal
0.3
Dominance
0.4
Transparency
Does the content identify its author and disclose interests?
0.50
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More signals: context, framing & audience
Solution Orientation
Does this content offer solutions or only describe problems?
0.53 mixed
Reader Agency
0.6
Stakeholder Voice
Whose perspectives are represented in this content?
0.45 2 perspectives
Speaks: institutionindividuals
About: corporation
Temporal Framing
Is this content looking backward, at the present, or forward?
present immediate
Geographic Scope
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global
United States
Complexity
How accessible is this content to a general audience?
moderate medium jargon general
Longitudinal 16 HN snapshots · 6 evals
+1 0 −1 HN
Audit Trail 26 entries
2026-02-28 13:56 model_divergence Cross-model spread 0.41 exceeds threshold (4 models) - -
2026-02-28 13:56 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-02-28 13:56 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
reasoning
Tech article no rights stance
2026-02-26 22:41 eval_success Light evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-02-26 22:41 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
2026-02-26 20:07 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 20:05 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 20:03 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 20:03 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 20:03 eval_failure Evaluation failed: Error: Unknown model in registry: llama-4-scout-wai - -
2026-02-26 20:03 eval_failure Evaluation failed: Error: Unknown model in registry: llama-4-scout-wai - -
2026-02-26 20:02 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 17:31 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 17:29 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 17:27 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 17:26 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 09:31 eval_success Evaluated: Neutral (0.06) - -
2026-02-26 09:31 eval Evaluated by deepseek-v3.2: +0.06 (Neutral) 16,575 tokens
2026-02-26 08:56 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 08:55 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 08:55 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 08:55 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: 'Probably' doesn't mean the same thing to your AI as it does to you - -
2026-02-26 08:54 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=mistral-small-3.1 - -
2026-02-26 04:41 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.41 (Moderate positive) 18,955 tokens +0.03
2026-02-26 02:58 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.38 (Neutral) 18,916 tokens -0.10
2026-02-26 01:04 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.48 (Moderate positive) 18,832 tokens