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| Mild positive Landing Page · v3.7· 2026-02-28 10:10:23 0
Summary Digital Autonomy & Open Culture Advocates
Repebble.com presents a smartwatch platform designed around user customization, developer participation, and open source transparency. Core engagement centers on Articles 19 (expression through app creation), 26 (developer education access), 27 (cultural participation via 15,000 user-created items), and implicitly 23 and 28 (independent, anti-exploitative business model). The company actively advocates for digital autonomy, community-driven development, and alternatives to venture-capital-driven tech through both editorial framing and structural choices (open source, low-barrier tools, community forums).
Excited (cautiously) about this. Loved my Pebble Time and was gutted when 1) Pebble bit the dust, and 2) my Pebble vanished down that black hole things like small devices and the other sock invariably go down. If this happens, I hope they can keep the revived Pebbles just smart enough and rebuild the app ecosystem. Best of luck, folks. I'm cheering you on from the sidelines!
My Pebble Time Round is still the single best piece of tech I have ever owned and used, and I miss it every day.
If it can be brought back, I’d pay whatever is necessary, and I’d love to contribute now that I’ve spent many years doing embedded firmware development professionally!
I noticed my mouth had been hanging agape for a while while reading this. This is huge news. I feel like Pebble is the smartwatch that got it right the first time. So many smartwatches try to replace the phone instead of being an extension of the phone. Pebble seemed to better understand what is important than most smartwatches by being the extension of the phone, a focus on battery life and always on displays.
Great device — lasted 4 years, woke me at 5 AM without disturbing my kids, and handled notifications well. Battery life was about a week, and it was swim-proof. That said, it was cheap... I hope this new version isn’t part of the “dumb” device trend where people spend $500 just to detox, thinking the price will force commitment.
Even though I haven't used one in a really long time, the Pebble Time still stands out to me as something I wish I still had.
It's an absolutely shame that Pebble was so innovative and functional, but couldn't reach mass market. But, I am extremely excited and happy that the Pebble team can start it again. I don't like Google for many things, but, I am grateful that the open-sourced PebbleOS. What a joyous day!
I lost mine somewhere in SF while visiting years ago but I absolutely loved it.
I won it at a hackathon after making a tiny Pebble app where you could keep score during a soccer game as a referee by pressing the side buttons.
App development and publishing was extremely easy on their app store.
After my Pebble I tried an e-ink "Watchy" from SQFMI (https://watchy.sqfmi.com/) thinking that the battery life would be great but the battery only lasted a few days.
I've been wearing a Bangle 2 (https://www.espruino.com/Bangle.js2) which feels closest to recreating my Pebble. It has super long battery life and feels a lot like my Pebble did, but doesn't have the polish of the pebble UI and animations.
Awesome! The first Pebble absolutely fascinated me by having a hackable, C-running watch on my wrist.
I vividly remember spending days fine tuning the heuristics of a simple step detection algorithm in the first watchface where I thought “seeing your daily step count next to time sure is awesome”. And later, tens of thousands of people thought so as well - this was one of the signs what the health-tracking wrist device is about to become.
It was incredible that even the first model allowed you to run a 30 samples per second accelerometer sampling and classifying the movement, 24/7, and still lasted days. No other watch offers a similar level of hackability.
And as the time progressed, Pebble became the first platform to get Weathergraph - my graphical weather watchface.
Weathergraph was then ported to Garmin (as Pebble shut down), and then to Apple Watch widget (as it became a capable platform with the introduction of standalone watch-apps in watchOS 6), and then to iOS app & widget, where it now lets me live a life of indie developer, after a serie of corporate design/PM/dev jobs.
Thank you for that, Eric & Pebble team.
I still keep the developer edition Pebble with my name printed on the back (great touch!) in my shelf and heart, and will always remember Jon Barlow, one of the best and most helpful developer advocates I ever encountered.
And kudos to the whole dev team. The watch and companion app was rock stable, always staying connected, the calendar always being in sync, watch apps installed quickly and reliably - the things that 10x larger companies struggled with for years were nailed here almost from day one.
Godspeed!
PS: What a mishap to shut the company down shortly after a release of Pebble 2. It nailed the experience of a lightweight watch, with the most contrasty BW reflective screen I have seen, and buttery smooth animations (while Garmin still renders menus in like 8-10 fps on their MIP screens 10 years later). So small and lightweight, I’d love everyone to try it on, and compare with 2024 smartwatches.
I haven't used a Pebble, but I wanted to mention something I have seen praised a lot on HN and elsewhere. Apparently, the Bluetooth stack on a Pebble is absolutely legendary: reliable, dependable, robust, you name it. It still works reliably today seemingly thanks to their very diligent software design.
I hope that element of it will continue to exist as-is on these new ones? I mention this because Bluetooth is still generally speaking very meh.
This is great news. In the last few years, I have upgraded my apple watch couple of times hoping to accept even marginal improvements to battery life and hackability but every time I stop using it seeing how it's still not what I am looking for.
I tried keeping my pebble alive for so long even after it's demise, I bought 2 Pebble Time when a few were still available on ebay.
I remember writing my first integration from scratch to control room lamp using my Pebble watch. I hacked it together by getting a wifi socket and programming a web-server hosted on my raspberry-pi.
My pebble watch would call an app on my phone, in turn the app would make a request to the webserver and the webserver would then make a query to the wifi socket to toggle it.
It lagged a bit but it got the job done. I could connect anything to these wifi sockets and control any appliance with my Pebble time. This was before hackable smart hubs were a thing.
Developing the for the Pebble was a lot of fun. There was a Pebble hack-a-thon recently (recent being 2 years ago) and I finally got around to finishing a project that I started a decade earlier:
Pebble had an ingenious design for its watch apps. Despite the watch having a limited processor and even more limited RAM, it could accommodate several apps, each boasting a lot of capability.
Each Pebble app was comprised of two components: one that resided on the watch and another on the phone. Users could install these apps from Pebble's dedicated app store, and the same app was compatible with both iOS and Android. Pebble brilliantly bypassed Apple's app install restrictions and cross-platform compatibility challenges by executing the on-phone portion within the platform's JavaScript engine.
If you wanted to create a weather application, the phone component of the app would be written in JavaScript and retrieve weather updates from the Internet, which would then be conveyed to the watch's C-based app for display. Watch apps could also have a settings page that was implemented in HTML.
I have always been impressed by of the cleverness and simplicity of this design.
I LOVE My Pebble and even got Rebble working on it not long ago to revive it.
However...
If you want to make it TRULY HACKABLE as you claim, you will not encumber it with cloud dependencies like you did last time. Let ME self host my own Pebble server if I choose. Go ahead and default to your servers and sell services and whatever, but let me host my own and switch the base URL to my own domain, preferably with open source software and simple APIs, without requiring me to go through your servers.
That way, even if this attempt also doesn't pan out, those of us willing to do the work will at least still have the functionality we want. I get the whole VC "lock them into required cloud services for life so we can make endless subscription revenue" model, but it's absolutely corrupt.
And, Eric, I know you know that - you have a hacker's heart. Please listen to it.
I owned the Pebble OG, the Pebble Steel and the Pebble Time Steel and despite all my attempts, I couldn't fill the void the Pebble left. I tried the Amazfit Bip, The BangleJS 2 (that one got pretty close IMO) and now rocking a Casio watch that does bluetooth but still work on a CR2032 (GBD-200), and more than a year on the same battery, which is quite a feat when you think about it.
The software UX of the Pebble was on point, and the animations surprisingly smooth for such a device. I'm still convinced that after all there years, the Timeline UI is unrivaled.
The primary use for a smartwatch for myself (and many of my family, friends) is fitness and health tracking. Card payments, notifications, WatchFaces etc. are all secondary.
Basically what Whoop is doing with their strap - but minus the subscription model. I know a ton of people who tried the whoop but felt it was extremely pricey and didn't have the accuracy of an apple watch.
I would be happy to pay ~$400-500 up front for hardware that integrates with Apple Health and provides solid, reliable health tracking without a need for a subscription.
And by health/fitness - features expected would be sleep tracking, activity (gps), heart rate, Sp02, skin temperature sensors, fall detection. Then secondarily - additional things like ECG/EKG, apnea, AFib detection
The in-accuracy of some of the devices in the market is why I still choose to remain with my Apple Watch.
The Withings ScanWatch was the right fit for me. Unfortunately the HR sensor stopped working recently and the water resistant seal broke, and it's out of warranty, so it's in a drawer. But IMO that was the right idea: analog time, discrete notifications, ppg/ekg sensors, 2-week battery life.
Feels a little bit salty to send customers to Google's competitor given the fact that Google provided the exit and also liberated the code. They didn't have to do that.
A better "thank you" to Google would be to direct people to Fitbit.
I'm still using it, in fact to the point that it's probably the biggest factor why I have been procrastinating on still staying on Android rather than trying alternatives like PinePhone.
That the OS has been open sourced is great news (though it's sad it was on GitHub... and hopefully other communities around Pebble will spring up outside of platforms (article only mentions Discord and Reddit)).
> It's an absolutely shame that Pebble was so innovative and functional, but couldn't reach mass market.
I think trying to reach "mass market" - or specifically, the market of people who are into fitness and sportsball - is largely what killed them. I'd like to believe that they could've catered to existing userbase a bit longer, grew a little more slowly but sustainably by doubling down on an idea of an ergonomic, battery-efficient, programmable smartwatch extension - a tool, not a toy.
Alas, maybe the whole thing was over once Apple, and Samsung got their marketing wheels spinning.
I got rug pulled by "the pebble team" the first time, leaving me with 3 watches they effectively bricked.. Not gonna sign up for that again.
(I got a refund on my last Pebble order. When the money showed up I drunk-ebayed a 2nd hand ~40 year old mechanical watch. I now have about 20 wind up or mechanical auto winding watches. I do have a few chinese ~$40 "smart watches" that do an OK job of notifications on my wrist, and a somewhat questionable job of heartrate and blood pressure monitoring, and one that produces totally random numbers for blood glucose reading whether it's on my wrist or not. I almost never wear any of those. I've got a Watchy kit, and open source epaper ESP32 watch, but I've had it maybe a year and haven't found the enthusiasm to assemble it.)
Pebble Time (Steel) Kickstarter is the only crowdfunding I truly regret missing out on. I remember seeing it at the time, but I think the reward levels I wanted were sold out or something.
Even in retrospect it seems weird that it failed the way it did.
The amount of us who clicked no is amazing. I loved my Pebble Time but I'm going to give money to yet another Kickstarter and have it be killed shortly after.
I've never worn a pebble, but I also have a banglejs 2 and I really love the watch for it's hackability.
I've written my own watchface and a couple of other apps and made changes to a number of existing apps, it's really simple because you can always test your code changes live on the watch while keeping it on your wrist. There's an IDE that connects to it using Bluetooth and the code can be modified during runtime
Lthere's also a great community of hackers and tinkerers that steadily improve the watch.
It might not have the same polish as the pebble had, but it makes it up in hackability. I can only recommend getting a banglejs2 (battery life is also pretty great, I get about 10 days with regular use)
Oh, my memory is hazy here, but if I remember right, at the beginning Apple didn’t let them download executable code (companion js) to the app, so they just took a javascript code from every app in the pebble store, bundled it into Pebble iOS app, and updated it every few days with a fresh code.
I am convinced that there must be Pebble fans on the Android team that keep a Pebble in CI and ensure it keeps working with each new release. Otherwise its continued extended working lifespan is inexplicable given the amount of churn in Android in general and the Bluetooth stack in particular.
> Weathergraph was then ported to Garmin (as Pebble shut down), and then to Apple Watch widget
I don't think I was a particularly early user of Weathergraph - but when I finally had to retire my Pebble Time I only considered platforms that had your watchface.
I second this. I'll be very hesitant to buy in if it's locked to a cloud service. And people are waking up to this, with the Bambu controversy and all. Please don't make this mistake.
So much this. Learn from Framework: Sell the hardware at a price point that makes your business sustainable without needing a cloud component to push you over into profitability.
Yes, it will lock out people for whom that price is unacceptable, but now more than ever your real customer is serious hackers, and we are collectively more than fed up with the cloud and subscriptions. Framework and Nabu Casa need to be your models here, because your customers are overwhelmingly their customers.
I'm 100% with you! No VCs this time...no mandatory cloud subscription. But I'm not really sure that this fear is grounded - before we sold to Fitbit we 'unlocked' the Pebble mobile app so you could use it with any cloud you wanted, including self hosted. So...it already meets your definition
Product explicitly positioned as cultural platform. 'Beautiful watchfaces and watchapps' emphasizes aesthetic/cultural dimension; customization framed as creative expression.
FW Ratio: 57%
Observable Facts
Page lists 'Pebble Appstore: 15,000 beautiful watchfaces and watchapps' created by users.
Page emphasizes 'easy to customize' twice, framing product as aesthetic/cultural medium.
Page provides tools enabling users to create watchfaces and watchapps ('CloudPebble,' SDK, developer forum).
Open source architecture enables modification and remix of cultural works.
Inferences
Large user-generated content library demonstrates robust cultural participation platform.
Emphasis on 'beautiful' and customization frames smartwatches as cultural/aesthetic objects rather than pure utility.
Open source design enables derivative, remix, and counter-cultural creative production.
Repeatedly frames product around user customization ('easy to customize') and creative expression. Appstore with 15,000 user-created watchfaces/apps demonstrates commitment to enabling user voice.
FW Ratio: 57%
Observable Facts
Page states 'easy to customize' three times across product descriptions.
Page lists 'Pebble Appstore: 15,000 beautiful watchfaces and watchapps' indicating large user-generated content ecosystem.
Page provides 'GitHub' link to open source code.
CloudPebble tool enables building 'in under 5 mins in your browser' with no installation barrier.
Inferences
Emphasis on customization and user-created content directly frames products as platforms for personal expression.
Browser-based development tool architecture removes technical barriers to code-based expression.
Open source code publication enables expression through code modification and remix.
Page emphasizes education accessibility through 'Developer Info,' 'tutorials,' and 'documentation.' Framing of open source as learning resource ('read tutorials') demonstrates commitment to educational access.
FW Ratio: 57%
Observable Facts
Page provides 'Developer Info: Install the SDK, read tutorials and developer documentation' as explicit learning pathway.
CloudPebble tool enables development 'in under 5 mins in your browser' removing installation/setup barriers.
Page offers 'Open Source' code for learning and study.
Philosophy explicitly rejects investor-driven model ('no investors') and emphasizes independent, autonomous work ('we just dream up new devices that we'd like to use'). This implies freedom from exploitative labor models.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Page states 'There are no investors.' directly.
Page states 'The majority of our work is open source.'
Page frames purpose as 'we just dream up new devices that we'd like to use and build them' — user/maker-centric rather than shareholder-centric.
Inferences
Rejection of venture capital model implies resistance to investor pressure that typically drives labor exploitation.
Open source work suggests workers retain some creative agency over output.
Framing work as autonomous creation ('we build them') contrasts with alienated wage-labor models.
Philosophy explicitly rejects extractive capitalism ('no investors,' 'not trying to take over the world') and prioritizes human use-value over exchange-value ('dream up devices we'd like to use'). Anti-monopoly framing suggests commitment to just social order.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Page states 'There are no investors.' and 'We're not trying to take over the world.'
Page frames motivation as 'we just dream up new devices that we'd like to use and build them' — use-value prioritized over profit.
Company explicitly contrasts itself with unnamed competitors: 'no one has created a smartwatch that fits our specific set of needs.'
Inferences
Explicit rejection of venture capital and monopoly ambitions signals philosophical opposition to exploitative business models.
Use-value framing ('we'd like to use') implies prioritization of human need over shareholder extraction.
Anti-monopoly stance reflects ethical commitment to decentralized, participatory market order.
15,000-item appstore demonstrates platform infrastructure for user cultural production; customization and open source enable derivative cultural works; developer tools enable creative participation.
GitHub repository enables code-level expression; CloudPebble browser tool lowers barrier to digital creation; developer forums provide platforms for expression and knowledge sharing.
SDK available for free download; CloudPebble provides browser-based development without installation barrier; open source code accessible as educational resource.
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