Model Comparison 100% sign agreement
Model Editorial Structural Class Conf SETL Theme
claude-haiku-4-5-20251001 +0.38 +0.32 Moderate positive 0.43 0.10 Creator Empowerment & Privacy
@cf/meta/llama-3.3-70b-instruct-fp8-fast lite +0.60 ND Strong positive 0.80 0.00 Data Privacy
deepseek/deepseek-v3.2-20251201 +0.21 +0.14 Mild positive 0.19 0.12 Creator Rights & Privacy
@cf/meta/llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct lite +0.50 ND Moderate positive 0.80 0.00 Data Protection
claude-haiku-4-5 lite +0.70 ND Strong positive 0.85 0.00 User Privacy & Data Rights
meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct:free ND ND
Section claude-haiku-4-5-20251001 @cf/meta/llama-3.3-70b-instruct-fp8-fast lite deepseek/deepseek-v3.2-20251201 @cf/meta/llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct lite claude-haiku-4-5 lite meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct:free
Preamble 0.47 ND 0.13 ND ND ND
Article 1 0.40 ND 0.10 ND ND ND
Article 2 0.17 ND ND ND ND ND
Article 3 ND ND 0.00 ND ND ND
Article 4 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 5 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 6 0.27 ND 0.03 ND ND ND
Article 7 0.00 ND ND ND ND ND
Article 8 0.17 ND ND ND ND ND
Article 9 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 10 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 11 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 12 0.80 ND 0.46 ND ND ND
Article 13 0.10 ND 0.03 ND ND ND
Article 14 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 15 ND ND 0.03 ND ND ND
Article 16 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 17 0.70 ND 0.36 ND ND ND
Article 18 0.37 ND 0.10 ND ND ND
Article 19 0.47 ND 0.43 ND ND ND
Article 20 0.37 ND 0.10 ND ND ND
Article 21 0.37 ND 0.10 ND ND ND
Article 22 0.37 ND 0.13 ND ND ND
Article 23 0.60 ND 0.23 ND ND ND
Article 24 ND ND ND ND ND ND
Article 25 0.40 ND ND ND ND ND
Article 26 0.17 ND 0.03 ND ND ND
Article 27 0.70 ND 0.53 ND ND ND
Article 28 ND ND 0.00 ND ND ND
Article 29 0.30 ND 0.10 ND ND ND
Article 30 0.00 ND ND ND ND ND
+0.38 Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years (non.io S:+0.32 )
1943 points by jjcm 993 days ago | 590 comments on HN | Moderate positive Contested Mission · v3.7 · 2026-02-28 10:20:19 0
Summary Creator Empowerment & Privacy Advocates
Non.io is a creator-focused platform with a subscription funding model that explicitly advocates for user privacy and creator economic rights. The site positions itself as an alternative to ad-supported social platforms, arguing that subscription-based funding enables user dignity (not treating users as products) while ensuring creators receive fair compensation. The evaluation reveals strong alignment with UDHR provisions on privacy (Article 12), property rights (Article 17), cultural participation (Article 27), work and fair wages (Article 23), and freedom of expression (Article 19).
Article Heatmap
Preamble: +0.47 — Preamble P Article 1: +0.40 — Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood 1 Article 2: +0.17 — Non-Discrimination 2 Article 3: ND — Life, Liberty, Security Article 3: No Data — Life, Liberty, Security 3 Article 4: ND — No Slavery Article 4: No Data — No Slavery 4 Article 5: ND — No Torture Article 5: No Data — No Torture 5 Article 6: +0.27 — Legal Personhood 6 Article 7: 0.00 — Equality Before Law 7 Article 8: +0.17 — Right to Remedy 8 Article 9: ND — No Arbitrary Detention Article 9: No Data — No Arbitrary Detention 9 Article 10: ND — Fair Hearing Article 10: No Data — Fair Hearing 10 Article 11: ND — Presumption of Innocence Article 11: No Data — Presumption of Innocence 11 Article 12: +0.80 — Privacy 12 Article 13: +0.10 — Freedom of Movement 13 Article 14: ND — Asylum Article 14: No Data — Asylum 14 Article 15: ND — Nationality Article 15: No Data — Nationality 15 Article 16: ND — Marriage & Family Article 16: No Data — Marriage & Family 16 Article 17: +0.70 — Property 17 Article 18: +0.37 — Freedom of Thought 18 Article 19: +0.47 — Freedom of Expression 19 Article 20: +0.37 — Assembly & Association 20 Article 21: +0.37 — Political Participation 21 Article 22: +0.37 — Social Security 22 Article 23: +0.60 — Work & Equal Pay 23 Article 24: ND — Rest & Leisure Article 24: No Data — Rest & Leisure 24 Article 25: +0.40 — Standard of Living 25 Article 26: +0.17 — Education 26 Article 27: +0.70 — Cultural Participation 27 Article 28: ND — Social & International Order Article 28: No Data — Social & International Order 28 Article 29: +0.30 — Duties to Community 29 Article 30: 0.00 — No Destruction of Rights 30
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Editorial Mean +0.38 Structural Mean +0.32
Weighted Mean +0.42 Unweighted Mean +0.36
Max +0.80 Article 12 Min 0.00 Article 7
Signal 20 No Data 11
Volatility 0.22 (Medium)
Negative 0 Channels E: 0.6 S: 0.4
SETL +0.10 Editorial-dominant
FW Ratio 53% 38 facts · 34 inferences
Evidence 43% coverage
7H 9M 4L 11 ND
Theme Radar
Foundation Security Legal Privacy & Movement Personal Expression Economic & Social Cultural Order & Duties Foundation: 0.35 (3 articles) Security: 0.00 (0 articles) Legal: 0.15 (3 articles) Privacy & Movement: 0.45 (2 articles) Personal: 0.53 (2 articles) Expression: 0.40 (3 articles) Economic & Social: 0.46 (3 articles) Cultural: 0.43 (2 articles) Order & Duties: 0.15 (2 articles)
HN Discussion 20 top-level · 30 replies
jjcm 2023-06-12 16:57 UTC link
Some other fun tidbits: I'm trying to make this an API-first service, with the frontend being just a representation of how to use it. Because of that, I wanted to make the frontend as reusable/refactorable as possible, regardless of frontend framework. I relied on webcomponents for everything, and the full app is a SPA built purely in vanilla js.

I'd never recommend anyone take that approach, it was masochistic. Use react or something. It was a great learning experience, but writing everything in vanilla js does slow down dev time overall.

darkstar999 2023-06-12 17:02 UTC link
The main page shouldn't be login-walled. I don't want to create an account just to find out what kind of content this community has and how active it is.
cryoz 2023-06-12 17:35 UTC link
You should post this on /r/RedditAlternatives/ as well if you haven't already. Also, clickable link: https://non.io/#all
binkHN 2023-06-12 17:38 UTC link
Make the API compatible with Reddit's and you'll have a bunch of third-party clients starting on day one!
vinnymac 2023-06-12 17:42 UTC link
Mobile browser support is a little problematic.

A couple of things I noticed immediately, that you may want to consider.

  - landing page is not responsive, hard to read on Safari on iOS
  - login screen in-app couldn’t be closed, had to navigate away to exit, perhaps a hidden icon somewhere?
  - comment threads seemed to have the same issues on iOS as the landing page
Definitely like the direction you took for the UI, looks like with a little bit of work it’ll become a great platform though!
idiotsecant 2023-06-12 17:44 UTC link
The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influence of quid quo pro? (hey moderator, you overlook this spam post and maybe I cut you in on the profits)

When real money is involved on the internet the worst kinds of stuff results, and it takes a lot of effort to avoid it. How's that going to work?

None of this is to take away from your accomplishments here, by the way. The exact opposite in fact, you've got an interesting enough idea that it prompts interesting questions of the mechanics.

P.S. do you have any long-term plans to IPO this if it becomes successful? If not, some kind of guarantee that this platform is immune to enshittification would probably be very, very popular.

root_axis 2023-06-12 17:46 UTC link
Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network effect. Add in the upfront subscription model and failure to launch is basically assured.

When I visit the root domain I shouldn't be greeted with a marketing splash page, you need interesting content in the user's face right away, entice their curiosity and drive the user to explore the site... even as a fellow developer, my first instinct is to abandon the page as soon as I'm greeted with the cliche startup marketing page. Consider the user experience when I visit reddit.com or news.ycombinator.com or any other link aggregation competitor. What you have now is a tech demo, not a platform. Sorry if that's a little harsh, but I mean well! Good luck!

twic 2023-06-12 17:51 UTC link
Cool project! For something like this to succeed at Reddit's scale, it should stay snappy under load (which admittedly Reddit doesn't). So clicked through to Github to see what it's written in:

> Languages

> Shell 100.0%

I admired the absolute chadliness of this decision - until i realised this was just a top-level super-repo.

birracerveza 2023-06-12 17:52 UTC link
Big mistake, I open non.io and I don't see content. I see you trying to sell me something. I haven't read a single word of it.

If this wants to be a "reddit like" platform, it needs to be like reddit and actually present content on its homepage.

afterburner 2023-06-12 17:57 UTC link
Requiring a login to see anything at all is too much friction for this kind of thing. (Or at least I couldn't find a link that let to content from the main page without logging in.)

The UI is nice though. Minimal dead space in the comments.

TheCaptain4815 2023-06-12 18:05 UTC link
"A place for all content types - No matter what you make, Nonio is equipped to support it. With no advertisers, you aren’t at risk of having your content demonetized."

How far are you willing to go to defend this? There's been lots of technical talk in this thread so far, but I'm curious on this portion.

So far I'm LOVING the UI. I actually think you should drop the payment part ASAP and just push for more users in the standard social media format.

I also think a staggered release of new "tags" is a fantastic idea, but needs to scale ASAP (until the site is ready for users to create their own hashtags/subreddits)

EDIT: After using this more, it's so exciting and fun to see something so new and fresh. It really feels like I'm back in 2010.

blhack 2023-06-12 18:10 UTC link
Please don't take this criticism harshly:

You say that you've been working on this for 4 years, but there's no content here. Have you not been using it yourself for 4 years? Where is the content that you and your friends have been posting?

FlyingSnake 2023-06-12 18:11 UTC link
I've spent enough time [Edit: on HN] to remember App.net¹ which was launched with similar fanfare but was shut down after few painful years of trying to find a PMF. The lesson I learned from that saga was HN might not be the best place to validate your product. We're too smart to diss even good ideas like DropBox.

Go and talk to your potential customers and I hope the App.net story gives you some inspiration.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4372985

2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13387723

stickfigure 2023-06-12 18:59 UTC link
Depending on how fast you can execute it may be too late, but right now you have a brief window of opportunity to get a seedbed of users.

Reproduce the Reddit API exactly such that these soon-to-be-defunct client apps can work with minimal changes (ideally, just a configurable root domain). Reach out to the client authors and see if they will enable your site. Maybe you'll capture some of those user communities.

Zamicol 2023-06-12 19:18 UTC link
I'm concerned about the `#` character in the URL.

# means fragment and that's kept local and not sent to the server unless client side Javascript sends it to the server. I would use an identifier that doesn't already mean something to the URL.

See the URL spec here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3986#section-3.5 We are using this in a lot of our projects, like https://github.com/Cyphrme/URLFormJS#query-parameters-fragme... (and https://github.com/Cyphrme/Path)

For an example where this is relevant: https://cyphr.me/ed25519_tool/ed.html#?msg_encoding=Text&msg...

danudey 2023-06-12 19:31 UTC link
I like the concept, though I agree with a lot of the comments about people content farming and reposting comments for upvotes and I think that would kill the site (since Reddit already has enough of a problem with this and that's just for fake internet points).

The thing that I think a lot of people are missing about Reddit is that it's not a content aggregation site like HN or Digg or your site, Non.io; it's a community of communities.

I've seen so many reddit-likes which switch from 'subreddits' to hashtags, but that doesn't work for what makes Reddit great. On Reddit, you can create your own communities and control who is in them, set rules for them, moderate them how you want, and so on. For example, /r/AskHistorians has some extremely specific rules and moderation; /r/GirlGamers is a community of like-minded (typically female) individuals. /r/Trans is (in theory?) a safe place for the trans community to interact with one another. /r/BreakingMom is a place where mothers can vent without repercussions and non-mothers are not welcome to contribute content.

None of that is possible in this hashtag design. The #trans hashtag will be a shitshow of offensive, triggering, and deliberately abusive content, and there's nothing the trans community could do about that.

Toxic users on your platform will drive out anyone they don't like, and the only recourse users will have is to ask you (the admins/moderators) to ban those users - and now you have to make the decision of all of the content that is allowed on the site. Are you going to allow transphobic jokes on the site? If so, you're going to drive away trans people (and anyone with a sense of decency). If not, you're going to have to constantly be banning people from the whole site and not just part of it.

I think it's a cool site, but I think this software could be used to replace only one subreddit and not all of Reddit itself.

bardak 2023-06-12 19:48 UTC link
The use of tags vs discrete communities keeps it from being a viable alternative to Reddit for me.

I have a real disdain for tags for user generated content. Every site I have seen use tags I end up having to wade through a ton of spam or vaugly related content to whatever tag I am looking for. The only exception I can think of is Hashtags for twitter but that is due to the character limit.

I understand that people see tages as a solution to crossposting but I think people overlook the benefits of crossposting. Being able to have seperate conversations on AI art in an art community vs programming community is more useful to me than having a single post that both communities comment on.

wkat4242 2023-06-12 20:06 UTC link
I like the idea and the price is fine. But I'd rather pay $2 for the servers instead of rewarding posters. The problem is that once they start making money it will become too clickbaity/commercial. I strongly dislike the mass content most "pro" YouTubers like Linus tech tips and the like generate.

Reddit never really had this because all you could give was subscription time. Paying causes this mainstream focus and clickbaiting.

Maybe you feel the need to attract content generators to your platform but it will only create more mediocre content IMO.

What was so great about Reddit was that people created amazing content that they were passionate about, regardless of whether it paid well or not.

dehugger 2023-06-12 22:23 UTC link
To be blunt, this had enough bugs out of the gate that I nearly didn't even finish registering! It feels like you rushed this out to capitalize on the reddit collapse, which I understand, but it may flop entirely because of these problems.

The registration kept failing with no indication as to why, just a red X on the button. I finally figured out that it simply didn't like my email address, trying a different one worked.

Then I tried to change my profile picture. That was failing completely silently; I guess .PNG files aren't excepted? I tried the same avatars that I use on every other site without issue. I did try a random .JPG, and that worked.

Opening the videos tab, none of the posts show the video, clicking on them doesn't expand anything, and the text isn't aligning, some of them randomly have the title in the center of the bar. I can't even figure out how to view the video.

This is on Firefox, latest version, no extensions.

EDIT: On further exploration, the submission description box has a bug. The first letter I wanted to type somehow got stuck as the last letter, and there was no way to delete/move it. "y description looked like this.M"

chrisshroba 2023-06-13 12:05 UTC link
When I load the all page, I get an alert that just says "1", which feels like it's probably a successful XSS attack. Given that, I can't justify putting my credit card number directly into the site. If it took Paypal, Apple Pay, or similar I would absolutely give it a try for a few months.

Screenshot of the alert (imgur marked it as nsfw because it includes a thumbnail of a post that is mildly nsfw): https://imgur.com/a/TmwO1jg

The likely culprit: https://imgur.com/a/rJrLxfn

jjcm 2023-06-12 17:17 UTC link
Fair. I removed login requirements for browsing. You should be able to see all posts here: https://non.io/#all

As a disclaimer, this is truly me just launching today, there's only 4 posts currently.

jjcm 2023-06-12 17:41 UTC link
I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...
wlesieutre 2023-06-12 17:47 UTC link
Another moderation risk is that whoever is moderating has an incentive to delete people’s potentially successful posts and repost under their own or a friend’s alt account
SkyMarshal 2023-06-12 17:51 UTC link
Mostly agree. The screenshot in the top right looks good, like professional app I might actually use. But I want to actually browse the site and check it out without first slogging through a registration process. If it’s free to view/browse anyway, then enable doing that without registering. Register and pay if you want to post.

Edit: You can browse without registering after all, here’s the link: https://non.io/#all (didn’t see it on the landing page or OP post).

benreesman 2023-06-12 17:53 UTC link
I think a lot of this is exactly the kind of constructive critique the OP is looking for, and I upvoted your comment for being high-value.

But I’m currently working on being a little more diplomatic, and too often I regret throwing in low-signal “this is a tech demo” type summaries next to my substantial remarks.

I hope this comes off as “fellow user working on this” and not a person in a glass house with rocks.

jacobkranz 2023-06-12 17:54 UTC link
This is why I've been so curious as to exactly what Reddit is really trying to do with this api change. If the point of Reddit is to consume content then the content itself (and the amount of it consumed) is really their business model so all actions should support that vs. getting people to arbitrarily be on their site. If your business is content, it shouldn't matter if it's a third-party app or if it's on your main site. I just cannot figure out the long-term logic behind this move (ofc short-term it's about $$ and their IPO but this'll hurt their model in the long-run)
DerekBickerton 2023-06-12 17:59 UTC link
> this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network effect

Which is why launching any social network is a dice roll. You need that initial momentum to propel it further, or some 'lucky break' to get it popular. Many social networks got popular accidentally, typically because some VIP joined the platform and everyone went to follow the VIP, increasing DAUs / MAUs which is the only metric social media networks care about.

googlryas 2023-06-12 18:01 UTC link
Do any 3P clients let you point their app to backends other than reddit.com? Or are you just saying it would be easy for app developers to quickly port their app to non.io?
janalsncm 2023-06-12 18:01 UTC link
On the flip side, the fact that this is a crowded space means that there’s a demand for it. And this isn’t a Reddit clone, it has a business model which is pretty close to the best anyone could hope for in my opinion. In any case, I applaud any efforts that could unseat Reddit or make them reconsider their greedy hard line.

I encourage the creator of Non.io to identify the key shortcomings of Reddit and improve upon them. Don’t just try to clone Reddit beyond the basic image/link board, otherwise you’ll just be playing their game. Change the game. There is a Folding Ideas video on this topic which has some great insights with respect to YouTube: https://youtu.be/r3snVCRo_bI

jjcm 2023-06-12 18:01 UTC link
100% agree with everything said here.

My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback.

The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial business model, it'll be harder for users to understand that this isn't a direct reddit clone.

jjcm 2023-06-12 18:04 UTC link
Going directly to a tag view will let you browse without logging in: i.e. https://non.io/#all or https://non.io/#dog

I've still got plenty of work to do on the UX of the site!

ehaughee 2023-06-12 18:07 UTC link
That is pretty interesting. Probably an solid blog post in and of itself.
coldpie 2023-06-12 18:13 UTC link
"PMF"?
ZeroCool2u 2023-06-12 18:14 UTC link
I also saw this and was initially both equally horrified and impressed.
bee_rider 2023-06-12 18:28 UTC link
If everyone chips in $1, and their $1 is split between all the things they’ve upvoted, isn’t the financial incentive to produce posts that are upvoted by people who don’t typically upvote? That actually seems like a pretty interesting incentive.
moffkalast 2023-06-12 18:57 UTC link
Ah yes, Webkit on mobile continues to be the bane of every web dev's existence.
haroldp 2023-06-12 19:11 UTC link
> maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences

Just charging $2 might be a huge improvement over reddit because it makes sock puppets cost too much to scale.

Paying out for upvotes, I fear will incentivize lowest-common-denominator content. If you go to a quality tech subreddit and sort by "Top" comments, they will mostly be memes. They won't be from an expert solving your very specific problem. And more generally, I worry it will reward that twitter-style, shrill political dunking, binary thinking, maximalism and in-group point scoring. This may be a recipe for an even more toxic r/politics.

Very interesting trying to puzzle out how a given incentive structure will play out in practice.

Zetice 2023-06-12 19:14 UTC link
Completely disagree re: moderation. The goal for sites like this is never "high quality content", it's "maximum traffic".

If he can get 50k paying users, he's a millionaire. If that means low effort meme posts, who are you to slap those dollars out of his hand?

The "intelligentsia" of the Internet need to get a grip on what people want; these sites are for entertainment not elucidation and discovery.

jjcm 2023-06-12 19:21 UTC link
Definitely problematic. I have a local branch that has mobile css that's ~60% complete. Designs for it are here: https://www.figma.com/file/DStwulDd9Vd3TLjrMuxZ9y/nonio-desi...

Aiming to have mobile css in a couple weeks time. Apologies for the poor experience!

jjcm 2023-06-12 19:49 UTC link
I've been working on the code for 4 years. Only opened up posting to others today. Obviously have test posts, but I deleted many of them prior to this post.
GordonS 2023-06-12 19:52 UTC link
I like hashtags - but, like you, I don't think they work as the primary means of content discovery.
JustBreath 2023-06-12 19:52 UTC link
Definitely, two killer features:

- Nearly plug-n-play with the Reddit API

- Support for subreddits with mod management

kraftman 2023-06-12 19:56 UTC link
I think an option to only show comments from people subscribed to the same communities as you, or the community you're viewing the content from could solve this.
JustBreath 2023-06-12 19:56 UTC link
Yeah one key missing feature is subreddit creation and moderation.

Without all the free labor from moderators curating content for topics with different tastes and ideas about what the community should be, it's going to be a struggle to build a community.

jjcm 2023-06-12 20:30 UTC link
It's a hybrid model, and I'd be curious if people like this or not as it's been something I'm fiddling with.

Note that when you vote, you upvote the tag itself. The vote within the tag determines its order when browsing the tag itself. So if something is tagged with #formula1 and has 483 upvotes for the tag, it will appear high in the #formula1 list view. If it's also tagged with #funny with 1 upvote, it will appear low in the #funny list despite the high votes on #formula1.

CM30 2023-06-12 20:54 UTC link
Yeah, earning money for posting on a service like this sounds good at first, but it's often a magnet for folks that don't really care about contributing to the platform beyond that. These usually fall into 2 categories:

1. Hustlers and schemers, who want to get rich quick (usually the folks that like spam, blackhat SEO and 'hustle culture').

2. Folks in 3rd world countries who see this as a ticket out of poverty.

The former are a disaster for any good community site or service, and the latter have the potential to become the former, since 'spam the crap out of a service for the chance to make more money' becomes an enticing proposition. A big digital marketing forum shut down its revenue sharing because these folks flooded it with low quality crap, the likes of Medium and Quora have become hellholes due to the same incentives, and crypto based 'pay to earn' games have literally led to people starting up sweatshops to make money in them.

Having it also cost money to use the site will help a bit, but it'll also filter out many good users due to not wanting to spend money on a subscription, and create a mental calculus of "can I make more from my content than it'll cost me to sign up", which isn't ideal in itself.

jhatemyjob 2023-06-12 21:39 UTC link
I also want to add: HN is an especially bad place to validate this type of product because HN has the exact same interface as reddit. This post is popular because of its novelty, there is an incentive to upvote this post and say whatever OP wants to hear in order to get him to keep working on this project. Because "having alternatives never hurts". But it hurts the person developing the alternative. He already lost 4 years of his life to this. Hopefully he wises up and pivots before he wastes another 4 years.
sudobash1 2023-06-12 22:35 UTC link
The fact that I had to register at all to see the content (unless I am missing something obvious) was nearly a turn-away point for me. But I ran into the same thing. But it seems to be an issue with the site on Firefox. I was able to register with Chrome just fine.
jjcm 2023-06-12 23:34 UTC link
Obviously I can’t defend “all content types” to the level that say, the darkweb can. I’ll still abide by the law. That said, I don’t have the pressure of ad networks to filter out content.

I still have pressures however. Using Stripe and credit cards for payment processing means I have to ensure the sites primary purpose isn’t adult content, as if that content dominates its very likely Stripe will choose to no longer do business with me. I can still support it, but it can’t be the primary purpose.

jjcm 2023-06-12 23:35 UTC link
Also thank you for the kind words about the UI! Poured a lot of love into it, but I’ve got a lot of work to go for non-chrome browsers.
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Article 12 Privacy
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The site explicitly advocates for user privacy, stating 'We wont track you or sell your data to advertisers,' 'We currently do not use frontend tracking,' and 'We don't sell user data.' This is a central theme of the platform's messaging.

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The site explicitly advocates for property rights in digital content: 'You own your content. We aren't allowed to use it without permission.' This is a clear, unambiguous statement about content ownership.

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The site explicitly centers participation in culture and creativity: 'By being a part of nonio, you're choosing to support artists, musicians, writers, and creators of all types. We're excited to have you, and we look forward to seeing what you create as well.'

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The site advocates for creator compensation as a central value: 'The point of the platform is to fund their creativity.' The entire business model is framed as enabling creators to earn fair income from their work.

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The site advocates for human-centered design and explicitly rejects treating users as products. Emphasizes freedom from surveillance and dignity in platform design.

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The site enables and frames freedom of expression as central to the platform: 'Submit posts,' 'Comment on posts.' The open-source code also enables transparency about how expression is managed.

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SETL
0.00

The site frames creator support as universal, stating 'creators of all types' can participate in the platform regardless of background or content category.

+0.40
Article 18 Freedom of Thought
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
+0.20

The site frames itself as open to 'creators of all types' without apparent content-based ideology restrictions, implying freedom of conscience in what can be created and shared.

+0.40
Article 20 Assembly & Association
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
+0.20

The site enables community creation and participation. Community settings allow users to create and manage groups with moderation controls, supporting assembly and association.

+0.40
Article 21 Political Participation
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
+0.20

The site frames upvoting as meaningful political/economic participation: 'When you're choosing to upvote a post, you're saying that this item is deserving of a slice of your pool of contribution.' This is described as requiring conscience and responsibility.

+0.40
Article 22 Social Security
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
+0.20

The site frames creator support as enabling social security: 'Nonio would be nothing without creators. The point of the platform is to fund their creativity.' This enables economic security for creative workers.

+0.40
Article 25 Standard of Living
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.40
SETL
0.00

The site enables creators to earn income, which contributes to their standard of living. Economic security is a precondition for maintaining adequate standards.

+0.30
Article 6 Legal Personhood
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.30
SETL
+0.17

The site recognizes users as individuals capable of creating, commenting, and making choices ('you choose your subscription price'). Users have individual profiles with settings and content ownership.

+0.30
Article 29 Duties to Community
Medium Framing Practice
Editorial
+0.30
SETL
0.00

The site frames upvoting as requiring community responsibility: 'so you have to vote with a conscience. A picture of a cat may not be worthy of a percentage of your pool when you've previously voted up a high quality piece of investigative journalism.'

+0.20
Article 2 Non-Discrimination
Medium Framing
Editorial
+0.20
SETL
+0.14

The site does not explicitly address non-discrimination, though it implies content-agnostic acceptance ('creators of all types'). Community settings allow moderation but no explicit anti-discrimination policy visible.

+0.20
Article 8 Right to Remedy
Medium Practice
Editorial
+0.20
SETL
+0.14

The site provides contact mechanisms ('Email: [email protected], Twitter: @pwnies') for user concerns, but remedies are informal and founder-dependent.

+0.20
Article 26 Education
Low Framing
Editorial
+0.20
SETL
+0.14

The site supports educational content creation but does not explicitly emphasize education provision. Educational content is treated the same as other creator content.

+0.10
Article 13 Freedom of Movement
Low Framing
Editorial
+0.10
SETL
0.00

The site enables user movement between contexts (creator, commenter, browser) but does not explicitly address freedom of movement as a rights provision.

0.00
Article 7 Equality Before Law
Low
Editorial
0.00
SETL
ND

Not directly addressed. Moderation and community settings exist but no explicit commitment to equal protection under community rules is stated.

0.00
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights
Low
Editorial
0.00
SETL
ND

Not directly addressed. The site does not claim to override or limit UDHR rights.

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

Not addressed.

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

Not addressed.

ND
Article 5 No Torture

Not addressed.

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

Not addressed.

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

Not addressed.

ND
Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

Not addressed.

ND
Article 14 Asylum

Not addressed.

ND
Article 15 Nationality

Not addressed.

ND
Article 16 Marriage & Family

Not addressed.

ND
Article 24 Rest & Leisure

Not addressed.

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

Not addressed.

Structural Channel
What the site does
+0.80
Article 12 Privacy
High Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.80
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

Multiple structural protections: Stripe handles payments (not stored on Non.io), passwords are bcrypt-hashed, server-side logging only (no frontend tracking), no third-party data sharing stated in privacy policy.

+0.70
Article 17 Property
High Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.70
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

The platform enforces content ownership through account controls, storage of user-submitted content under user ownership, and contractual limitation on platform use (only thumbnails in promotions).

+0.70
Article 27 Cultural Participation
High Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.70
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

The platform is structurally designed to enable cultural participation: content submission, community feedback, financial support for creators, and visibility mechanisms (upvoting) all facilitate participation in cultural and scientific production.

+0.60
Article 23 Work & Equal Pay
High Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.60
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

The platform implements direct creator compensation through subscription allocation and monthly payouts. Each user's subscription funds creators based on their votes, establishing a fair wage mechanism.

+0.40
Preamble Preamble
High Advocacy Framing
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.22

The site implements privacy protections and subscription funding (not ad-supported), reflecting preamble values of freedom and dignity in practice.

+0.40
Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
High Framing Practice
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

Free tier ($0/mo) and paid tiers ($2-10/mo) enable participation regardless of economic status, making the right to equal dignity practically accessible.

+0.40
Article 19 Freedom of Expression
High Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.22

Multiple expression mechanisms (posts, comments, voting) are implemented. Moderation exists ('I will be deleting posts that are simple alert tests') but broader editorial controls are not detailed.

+0.40
Article 25 Standard of Living
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

The compensation structure and withdrawal mechanisms enable creators to access income that supports their standard of living.

+0.30
Article 18 Freedom of Thought
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.20

Content submission tools and community discussion (comments) enable expression of diverse thoughts, though moderation standards and their application are not fully transparent.

+0.30
Article 20 Assembly & Association
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.20

Community creation tool, membership management, and moderation controls enable association. Restriction to 'Paid Users Only' or 'Admins Only' for posting/commenting may limit some forms of association.

+0.30
Article 21 Political Participation
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.20

Voting mechanism (upvote/downvote) allocates user funds to creators, creating a participatory decision-making structure where each user's choices shape platform outcomes.

+0.30
Article 22 Social Security
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.20

The subscription system allocates funds to creators monthly and provides withdrawal mechanisms (Stripe, crypto, cash transfer, regional payment methods), enabling access to earned income.

+0.30
Article 29 Duties to Community
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

The voting mechanism enforces conscience by making votes zero-sum (upvoting something means less goes to other items), encouraging thoughtful resource allocation.

+0.20
Article 6 Legal Personhood
Medium Framing Practice
Structural
+0.20
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.17

User accounts, individual profiles, and personal content ownership mechanisms enable recognition as distinct persons.

+0.10
Article 2 Non-Discrimination
Medium Framing
Structural
+0.10
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.14

Moderation capabilities exist but no evidence of discriminatory application or safeguards against discrimination.

+0.10
Article 8 Right to Remedy
Medium Practice
Structural
+0.10
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.14

Direct email and Twitter contact is available, but no formal dispute resolution, appeals process, or legal remedy framework exists.

+0.10
Article 13 Freedom of Movement
Low Framing
Structural
+0.10
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
0.00

Users can create accounts, move between pages/communities, and participate in various roles, but movement is not framed as a right.

+0.10
Article 26 Education
Low Framing
Structural
+0.10
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.14

The platform accommodates educational content but does not provide specific educational services or structure.

0.00
Article 7 Equality Before Law
Low
Structural
0.00
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
ND

Community moderation structure exists but no evidence of systematic equal protection or due process in rule application.

0.00
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights
Low
Structural
0.00
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
ND

No evidence of mechanisms designed to limit existing rights.

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

Not addressed.

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

Not addressed.

ND
Article 5 No Torture

Not addressed.

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

Not addressed.

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

Not addressed.

ND
Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

Not addressed.

ND
Article 14 Asylum

Not addressed.

ND
Article 15 Nationality

Not addressed.

ND
Article 16 Marriage & Family

Not addressed.

ND
Article 24 Rest & Leisure

Not addressed.

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

Not addressed.

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Epistemic Quality
How well-sourced and evidence-based is this content?
0.81 medium claims
Sources
0.8
Evidence
0.8
Uncertainty
0.8
Purpose
0.9
Propaganda Flags
No manipulative rhetoric detected
0 techniques detected
Emotional Tone
Emotional character: positive/negative, intensity, authority
hopeful
Valence
+0.7
Arousal
0.4
Dominance
0.6
Transparency
Does the content identify its author and disclose interests?
1.00
✓ Author ✓ Funding
More signals: context, framing & audience
Solution Orientation
Does this content offer solutions or only describe problems?
0.88 solution oriented
Reader Agency
0.8
Stakeholder Voice
Whose perspectives are represented in this content?
0.40 2 perspectives
Speaks: founder
About: creatorsusersadvertisers
Temporal Framing
Is this content looking backward, at the present, or forward?
mixed short term
Geographic Scope
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global
USA, Australia, International
Complexity
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accessible low jargon general
Longitudinal · 5 evals
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Audit Trail 25 entries
2026-02-28 10:20 model_divergence Cross-model spread 0.50 exceeds threshold (5 models) - -
2026-02-28 10:20 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.42 (Moderate positive)
2026-02-28 01:41 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years - -
2026-02-28 01:39 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-28 01:38 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-28 01:37 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-28 01:36 dlq_replay DLQ message 97662 replayed to LLAMA_QUEUE: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years - -
2026-02-28 00:20 eval_success Light evaluated: Strong positive (0.60) - -
2026-02-28 00:20 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: +0.60 (Strong positive)
2026-02-27 21:09 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years - -
2026-02-27 21:07 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 21:06 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 21:05 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 21:04 dlq_auto_replay DLQ auto-replay: message 97566 re-enqueued - -
2026-02-27 16:38 eval_success Evaluated: Mild positive (0.20) - -
2026-02-27 16:38 eval Evaluated by deepseek-v3.2: +0.20 (Mild positive) 13,171 tokens
2026-02-27 16:20 eval_success Light evaluated: Moderate positive (0.50) - -
2026-02-27 16:20 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.50 (Moderate positive)
2026-02-27 13:32 rater_validation_fail Parse failure for model deepseek-v3.2: Error: No content in OpenRouter response - -
2026-02-27 12:45 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years - -
2026-02-27 12:43 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 12:42 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 12:40 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-27 12:36 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5: +0.70 (Strong positive)
2026-02-26 18:42 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years - -